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I don’t understand, I find this contradictory. He says the appeal for one to follow salifism, is that one can question, go to the sources such as the Quran and Hadith, and challenge the local imams on cultural vs religious doctrines. Yet Sheikh Yasir Qadhi, states that he left the movement, because it isn’t intellectually stimulating. I personally think, that perhaps there might be strict elements in salifism, but one can’t deny the purity in it. I just like to label myself as a muslim who follows the sunnah and the quran, when we introduce all these new labels, it just creates divisions.
I agree with Brother Bassam, we need to get ourselves out of this man-made trap of labels! We should first and foremost call ourselves MUSLIM. The ONLY school of thought should be Khitab-Allah, Thee Quran. A Book “fully detailed” a Book in which Allah Himself states “We have not omitted anything from this book”(ref 6:38). All we need to know as muslims is what is revealed to us in the Quran. I once had a discussion along these lines with a muslim brother. He did not agree with me, he said that the Quran tells us how to do Wudhu but does not tell us to clean under our armpits or private area. I am sorry, but do we really need Allah to tell us how to do this!! This is general common sense. I see that a lot of common sense seems to be lacking in vast majority of people, not only some muslims. We lag behind the rest of the world in terms of intellectual prowess and are just content to argue about the length of beard! how long should be the trouser, should it pass the ankle or not! How many rakhats in taraweeh prayer etc etc.
The Quran is the only Wahi that remains intact and without error, without human tampering. We need to go back to the Quran, hold onto the rope of Islam, which is indeed the Quran. We need to abandon all the man-made introductions and innovations and distorted views that have been passed down to us for a few generations. We need to recapture TRUE ISLAM by reading and understanding Thee Quran. Being a salafi or a hanafi or a wahabi etc is not the way forward.The different schools of thought have only served to take us all further and further away from Thee Book of Allah..One day, muslims will be questioned for this, Imam Ghazali etc, on that day, my friends will not be standing next to you to grant you entrance to Jannah, he will be there waiting for his turn to be questioned by Allah swt.
wa Salam, wa salat
Peace to all my Muslim Brothers and Sisters.
assalamalaikum brother bassam
what u have said (when we introduce all these new labels, it just creates divisions.) is 100 % correct i have not seen this talk but now i will as soon as i am free , i want to see how he has done taweel of ayah of sure haj 78 & other ayah where allah ordain nabi (asws )& nuh (asws ) be among muslim ( an umirtu an akune minal muslimeen ), & what proof he has given from quran & sunnah sahee ahadees for calling salafi, or just he relied on past ulemas qowl to called themself salafi or any other name ( is it not a jameed taqleed ) & yes we must call ourself muslim , all who say shahada r muslim where ever they r , & we all muslim is one jammah, & u r all ummati rasul (asws ) walhualam bisthawab
yes it does cause division. (Division between Truth and Falsehood.)
this is informative and i like that he provides an educated explaination from his own experience. masha allah.
Masha Allah, very good talk by Sh.Yasir Qadhi.
Sh. Yasir Qadhi is a very good speaker explains very well, and well balanced in fiqhi issues.
It is true that labels does do much good other than causing disunity.
I agree with brother Khalid, but I also one to add that along with following the Qur’an is that we have to follow the Sunnah (sayings and doings of prophet Muhammad pbuh), especially those which have been classified authentic by Hadith scholars.
To understand the rituals of the Islam, it would be impossible to understand if we just restrict ourselves to the Qur’an, because Qur’an does not go in to details and steps. For example, the Qur’an instructs us about performing Salah, but it doesn’t give us details how to perform the salah, i.e. how to do bowing and prostration and what to recite, for that we have to refer to Sunnah of prophet (pbuh). Allah, the Almighty said: <> (al-Hashr,59:7).
Allah, the Almighty also said: <> (al-Nisa, 4:49)
Peace.
Thanks Brother Faysal for agreeing with me to a large extent. We muslims place too much emphasis on following the Sunnah of the Prophet, we forget that the sunnah of our beloved prophet was Thee Sunnah of the Quran. Yes, I am in total agreement that we must try to emulate our beloved prophet in as many ways as we can. Mohammed saw was and always will be in my eyes and many others, the greatest human being that has walked/ever to walk this earth.
However did not Bibi Aisha r.a not say that Rasool- Allah was a “walking Quran”? In other words the sunnah of the Prophet was the Sunnah of Allah swt, as revealed in Quran Majeed. Allah states in the Quran- “Obey Allah and obey the messenger” Please note very, very carefully the very precise, deliberate use by Allah swt of the word “messenger.” Nowhere in the Quran will you find Allah saying ” Obey Allah, obey Mohammed”! There is a very distinct difference between the use of the two words, messenger and Mohammed.
We obey the MESSENGR, by obeying what he says to us, and what the prophet said was ONLY THE Quran. The task of Rasool Allah was to deliver the message only. His task was not even to explain it! Allah makes mention of this. In addition Allah goes as far to state that if the messenger was to say anything other than the Quran, Allah would rip out his life artery!! ( ref:69:41-48 also 3:20 5:99 13:40 42:48. In addition there are hadith, written by men, that state that the Prophet pbuh prohibited the writhing down of anything other than the Quran i.e If the prophet spoke anything other than the Quran, they were not allowed to write this down. Some scholars say today that yes, this was said but it was only so that there was no confusion between the words of Allah and the words of the Prophet! I disagree with this. Why? Because the Quran has stood the test of time, that no human being could/can reproduce one surah like the Quran, Subhaan-Allah.
I hope you can now see that there is really no such thing as the sunnah of the prophet, it is really the Sunnah of Allah that we ought to follow, just as Rasool- Allah followed. Mohammed pbuh was the messenger of Allah, he came to deliver the MESSAGE. A most sublime, beautiful message meant not for just the Arabs, but for the whole of mankind.
wa-salam wa-salat
Peace
Asalamualeykum wer. web.
let start by saying that i have no qualified knowledge to make opinions regarding Islam. I consider my self a “good” Muslim. I have rusts in my heart that i try hard to clean- alhamdulilah i am working hard on it. I am recently trying to understand my religon but people have confused me so much that i feel like the more links i click- the more diversified and often contardictory and confusing the message becomes- the more i am pushed away. So called Shaiks and Imams are venerated by some while detested by others. Salafi, Wuhabi, Sufi…….I just cant take this anymore. Why do you confuse young muslims like me living in the west confronted by people saying “Jesus is God” and when i turn to the so called shaiks and imams some people call them innovators while some call them Kafir. Muslims are to blame for causing a division and isolating many. I may not have gone to the Islamic University of Medina and got a BA in Islamic studies but ALLAH has given me the gut feeling to know that something is wrong with the ” umma”.Please help me find my way before i am lost. Who should i listen or read on the internet, that will help me learn more about Islam? I think i should just prey to ALLAH to guide me on the straight path. We should all do that. I am not a Salafi. I am not a Whuhabi. I am not a Sunni. I am not a Shite. I am not a Sufi. I am just a muslim. STOP CONFUSING ME!!!
What is so funny is that we( muslims) are obliged to preach to non muslims about Islam. Some body needs to preach to muslims about Islam– or even may be the Shaiks or Imams need some preaching. I love them and respect them but they really need to stop calling one another names or saying one group “Un-intellectually Un-stimulating” while the other is enlightening, diversified and mainstream.
Brother Feysal.
You should not think youself confused,because foremost you have recognised that it is incorrect to call oneself sunni or shia etc. You call youself MUSLIM. That is the best foundation from which to build up your mighty life and inshall-Allah I do dua that Allah will lighten the path for you.A brilliant weapon that you should keep hold of when deciding if some belief or idea is wrong or right is to keep the sword of “LOGIC” close by. If something seems to be silly, then 100% of the time it is silly and you should not belief in it. The touch-stone, the Kasorti, should always be The Quran Majeed. Alhamdulillah, it is Thee only Book that we have that has been revealed directly from Allah swt. So hold onto this book very closely. Read it in your own mother-tonque. If you need help and would like to travel the true path of Islam, the middle path, the path that is being travelled by many muslims who wish to know the true path and who can guide you then a brilliant site to learn from is: http://www.ourbeacon.com It contains a copy of a translitteration of Quran that I am sure will impress you. There is also a forum which you can view or even sign-in to to see topics that like minded people are engaged in. they only call themselves “Muslim” they do not belong to any religous denomination. There aim is to only spread the true light of Islam. The Quran translation has been voted number 1 by Al-Azhar Islamic University.
May Allah help to guide you and take away your confusion.
Ameen
Jazzakum Allah khair.
Brother Khalid
Actually there is plenty of evidence in the Quran for the existence of the Sunnah. Furthermore, the commandments in the Quran cannot be implemented except through the Sunnah (ie the way of Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسل. For example Allah commands us to perform the Salah (prayer) in the Quran but He (Allah) does not tell us the details of the prayer such as how to pray, what to do in the prayer, what to say in the prayer, how many prostrations to make in the prayer, etc.
You said “The task of Rasool Allah was to deliver the message only. His task was not even to explain it! Allah makes mention of this.”, however if he was just a delivery man as you suggest then there was no need for him in the first place because Allah could just reveal the Quran on top of the Ka’bah or on top of a mountain.
You also said “In addition Allah goes as far to state that if the messenger was to say anything other than the Quran, Allah would rip out his life artery!! ( ref:69:41-48 also 3:20 5:99 13:40 42:48.” but this is a wrong translation/explanation of the statement of Allah! Allah is commanding the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسل to say exactly what Allah said and not to hide anything which Allah has revealed to him.
You also said “In addition there are hadith, written by men, that state that the Prophet pbuh prohibited the writhing down of anything other than the Quran i.e If the prophet spoke anything other than the Quran, they were not allowed to write this down. Some scholars say today that yes, this was said but it was only so that there was no confusion between the words of Allah and the words of the Prophet! I disagree with this. Why? Because the Quran has stood the test of time, that no human being could/can reproduce one surah like the Quran, Subhaan-Allah.”
You never dealt with the argument that your opponents presented which is “Some scholars say today that yes, this was said but it was only so that there was no confusion between the words of Allah and the words of the Prophet!” and your refutation to this statement is simply “I disagree with this. Why? Because the Quran has stood the test of time, that no human being could/can reproduce one surah like the Quran, Subhaan-Allah.” which does not actually refute the idea that the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسل prohibited the writing at one point due to possibility of confusion but then at a later time permitted it for the general benefit.
For a better explanation of this issue and more proofs watch this video:
http://new.livestream.com/ahcmedia/events/2380176
Salam Alaykum brother Feysal,
Keep up the good struggle in learning the deen and may Allah (swt) keep us away from fitnah of disunity. I am on the same boat as you are, I hate people causing division in the ummah. The labels don’t have any meaning if we are bad Muslims and we backbite against each other and lack manners. What is important is that we focus and learn the fundamental issues of Islam and those which are clear and we priorities with the most important ones.
We should avoid controversial or technical matters and leave them to the senior scholars and not busy ourselves with it. In the day of Judgement Allah (swt) would not ask us those things that were outside of our understanding, or practices which were beyond our ability. Please know that we won’t be able to resolve all the disputes in our life time until the day of the Judgement, only Allah, the Best of Judges will resolve them.
The problem is everyone on the internet forum wants to become a scholar and wants to give verdict and be judgemental. Take no notice of these people, because the majority of them are not qualified to do this. Anybody who believes in “La ila ha Illalahu Muhammadar Rasulullh” and believes in fundamentals is a Muslim, unless he/she denies them. Declaring someone a Kafir is dangerous, Declaring Kafir cannot be based on probability, meaning if there is a chance that a person may not be a kafir. Imam Malik said, “If I have 99 reasons to believe a person is a kafir and one to believe he is not, I’ll prefer the latter.”Declaring someone a Kafir , in most cases, is the job of a senior scholar or a Qadi and not a lay person.
Brother my advice will be to refer to trustworthy, qualified, open-minded scholars, those who embrace acceptable diversity, those who are wise, tolerant towards others, those who are on the balance path (away from both extremism)those who call for unity and not disunity. Please know that the companions of the prophet pbuh had lot of differences on issues, but, yet they remained united. They knew the etiquettes of differing, I think this is what is missing in our time, people don’t know the manner of differing. I think this is something what it should be taught to everyone by the imams or scholars before they get in to the field.
You may refer to the following to following talk of Sheikh Hasan Ali, Mash Allah, he is a very inspiring sheikh. The talk is called: Who is right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHkFkknENhk
websites for authentic and balanced understanding of Islam:
http://www.faithinallah.org/
http://www.suhaibwebb.com/
http://en.islamtoday.net/
http://www.onislam.net/english/
http://askthescholar.com/
And of course videos or audios in Halaltubes.com
Wa’Salaam
Salam Alaykum brother Feysal,
Keep up the good struggle in learning the deen and may Allah (swt) keep us away from fitnah of disunity. I am on the same boat as you are, I hate people causing division in the ummah. The labels don’t have any meaning if we are bad Muslims and we backbite against each other and lack manners.
What is important is that we focus and learn the fundamental issues of Islam and those which are clear and we priorities with the most important ones.We should avoid controversial or technical matters and leave them to the senior scholars and not busy ourselves with it. In the day of Judgement Allah (swt) would not ask us those things that were outside of our understanding, or practices which were beyond our ability. Please know that we won’t be able to resolve all the disputes in our life time until the day of the Judgement, only Allah, the Best of Judges will resolve them.
The problem is everyone on the internet forum wants to become a scholar and wants to give verdict and be judgemental. Take no notice of these people, because the majority of them are not qualified to do this. Anybody who believes in “La ila ha Illalahu Muhammadar Rasulullh” and believes in fundamentals is a Muslim, unless he/she denies them. Declaring someone a Kafir is dangerous, Declaring Kafir cannot be based on probability, meaning if there is a chance that a person may not be a kafir. Imam Malik said, “If I have 99 reasons to believe a person is a kafir and one to believe he is not, I’ll prefer the latter.”Declaring someone a Kafir , in most cases, is the job of a senior scholar or a Qadi and not a lay person.
Brother my advice will be to refer to trustworthy, qualified, open-minded scholars, those who embrace acceptable diversity, those who are wise, tolerant towards others, those who are on the balance path (away from both extremism)those who call for unity and not disunity. Please know that the companions of the prophet pbuh had lot of differences on issues, but, yet they remained united. They knew the etiquettes of differing, I think this is what is missing in our time, people don’t know the manner of differing. I think this is something what it should be taught to everyone by the imams or scholars before they get in to the field.
You may refer to the following to following talk of Sheikh Hasan Ali, Mash Allah, he is a very inspiring sheikh. The talk is called: Who is right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHkFkknENhk
websites for authentic and balanced understanding of Islam:
http://www.faithinallah.org/
http://www.suhaibwebb.com/
http://en.islamtoday.net/
http://www.onislam.net/english/
http://askthescholar.com/
Salam Alaykum brother Feysal,
Keep up the good struggle in learning the deen and may Allah (swt) keep us away from fitnah of disunity. I am on the same vote as you are, I hate people causing division in the ummah. The labels don’t have any meaning if we are bad Muslims and we backbite against each other and lack manners.
What is important is that we focus and learn the fundamental issues of Islam and those which are clear and we priories with the most important ones. We should avoid controversial or technical matters and leave them to the senior scholars and not busy ourselves with it. In the day of Judgement Allah (swt) would not be asked those things that were outside of our understanding or practices which were beyond our ability. Please know that we won’t be able to resolve all the issues in our life time until the day of the Judgement, only Allah, the Best of Judges will resolve.
The problem is everyone on the internet forum wants to become a scholar and wants to give verdict and be judgmental. Take no notice of the people, because the majority of them are not unqualified to do this. Anybody who believes in “La ila ha iIllalahu Muhammadar Rasulullh” and believes in fundamentals is a Muslim, unless he/she denies them. Declaring someone to be a Kafir is dangerous, declaring Kafir cannot cannot be based on probability, meaning if there is a chance that a person may not be a kafir. Imam Malik said, “If I have 99 reasons to believe a person is a kafir and one to believe he is not, I’ll prefer the latter.”Declaring someone a Kafir , in most cases, is the job of a scholar high caliber or a Qadi and not a lay person or a junior scholar.
Refer to trustworthy, qualified, open-minded scholars, those who embrace acceptable diversity, those who are wise, tolerant towards others, those who are on the balance path (away from both extremism)those who call for unity and not disunity. Please know that the companions of the prophet pbuh had lot of differences on issues, but, yet they remained united. They knew the etiquette of differing, I think this is what is missing in our time, people don’t know the manner of differing. I think this is something what it should be taught to everyone by the imams or scholars before they get in to the field.
You may refer to the following to following talk of Sheikh Hasan Ali, Mash Allah, he is a very inspiring sheikh. The talk is called: Who is right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHkFkknENhk
websites for authentic and balanced understanding of Islam:
http://www.faithinallah.org/
http://www.suhaibwebb.com/
http://en.islamtoday.net/
http://www.onislam.net/english/
http://askthescholar.com/
And of course Videos or Audios in Halaltubes.com
Wa’Salaam